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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://l2mastery.com/blog/methods/why-grammar-based-instruction-is-bunk#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe what especially matters in effective teaching and learning of English grammar is how clearly and easily understandable all grammar rules are explained and whether adequate supportive exercises with real life content are practised to master that material. It would take foreign learners much less time to learn grammar rules that are explained to learners than to figure out grammar rules on their own intuitively from texts because grammar rules may have exceptions and other peculiarities.

Grammar books with explanations and exercises have been published by knowledgeable language specialists to make learning grammar easier so that learners don&#039;t have to discover grammar rules anew the hard long way. A learner of English can&#039;t rely on real life communication alone to be proficient in using grammatically correct English. Learning English grammar from books, audio and video aids is equally indispensable to substantially 
accelerate mastering of English grammar.

Correct oral communication in English is based on knowledge of English phonetics, grammar, vocabulary, and on practice and experience in communicating with native English speakers in real life.

In my view English communicative integrated skills courses that practice  listening, speaking, reading and writing alongside pronunciation, grammar and vocabulary are the most effective and the most comprehensive  courses. Conventional communicative English teaching and learning supported with adequate regular long-term practice in listening 
comprehension and speaking in English yield effective results. Lack of such practice in English by learners produces speculations that conventional English learning and teaching methods don&#039;t work.

Knowledge  of grammar rules reduces making mistakes by learners. Without adequate 
knowledge of English grammar rules learners often cannot create their own grammatically correct sentences and often cannot understand what they read or hear in English exactly.

In my view learning English grammar in the following sequence ensures firm solid thorough knowledge of English grammar:
 
1. Read a short clear easily understandable explanation of a grammar rule.
2. Study several practical usage examples (sentences) illustrating that 
particular grammar rule. Check yourself whether you have mastered the 
examples.
3. Do several exercises for that rule with communicative content (with 
sentences that most likely can be used in real life situations).
 
Grammar exercises that contain dialogues, interrogative and statement (or narrative) sentences on everyday topics, thematic texts and narrative stories are especially effective for mastering grammatical structures.

Grammar practice should also include exercises in listening comprehension and speaking, not just in reading and writing. Grammar  exercises must help learners not only form correct sentences, but also use them correctly in context in real life situations. Contrastive and 
contextualised exercises give practice in form, meaning and use.

It is very important to learners for practising English grammar on their own that there are answers provided to exercises in their grammar practice book for self-check. English usage reference books help people avoid making mistakes in English. In such books learners and other users  of English can find answers to their questions about correct English usage. I believe the following English usage reference books are comprehensive and very helpful:

1. Longman Guide to English Usage.
2. Practical English Usage (Michael Swan).3. An A-Z of English Grammar &amp; Usage (Grammar Reference) [Paperback]
3. Geoffrey N. Leech (Author), Benita Cruickshank (Author), Roz Ivanic (Author), 2001
4. The Cambridge Guide to English Usage.
5. Collins Cobuild English Usage.
6. Fowler&#039;s Modern English Usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe what especially matters in effective teaching and learning of English grammar is how clearly and easily understandable all grammar rules are explained and whether adequate supportive exercises with real life content are practised to master that material. It would take foreign learners much less time to learn grammar rules that are explained to learners than to figure out grammar rules on their own intuitively from texts because grammar rules may have exceptions and other peculiarities.</p>
<p>Grammar books with explanations and exercises have been published by knowledgeable language specialists to make learning grammar easier so that learners don&#8217;t have to discover grammar rules anew the hard long way. A learner of English can&#8217;t rely on real life communication alone to be proficient in using grammatically correct English. Learning English grammar from books, audio and video aids is equally indispensable to substantially<br />
accelerate mastering of English grammar.</p>
<p>Correct oral communication in English is based on knowledge of English phonetics, grammar, vocabulary, and on practice and experience in communicating with native English speakers in real life.</p>
<p>In my view English communicative integrated skills courses that practice  listening, speaking, reading and writing alongside pronunciation, grammar and vocabulary are the most effective and the most comprehensive  courses. Conventional communicative English teaching and learning supported with adequate regular long-term practice in listening<br />
comprehension and speaking in English yield effective results. Lack of such practice in English by learners produces speculations that conventional English learning and teaching methods don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Knowledge  of grammar rules reduces making mistakes by learners. Without adequate<br />
knowledge of English grammar rules learners often cannot create their own grammatically correct sentences and often cannot understand what they read or hear in English exactly.</p>
<p>In my view learning English grammar in the following sequence ensures firm solid thorough knowledge of English grammar:<br />
 <br />
1. Read a short clear easily understandable explanation of a grammar rule.<br />
2. Study several practical usage examples (sentences) illustrating that<br />
particular grammar rule. Check yourself whether you have mastered the<br />
examples.<br />
3. Do several exercises for that rule with communicative content (with<br />
sentences that most likely can be used in real life situations).<br />
 <br />
Grammar exercises that contain dialogues, interrogative and statement (or narrative) sentences on everyday topics, thematic texts and narrative stories are especially effective for mastering grammatical structures.</p>
<p>Grammar practice should also include exercises in listening comprehension and speaking, not just in reading and writing. Grammar  exercises must help learners not only form correct sentences, but also use them correctly in context in real life situations. Contrastive and<br />
contextualised exercises give practice in form, meaning and use.</p>
<p>It is very important to learners for practising English grammar on their own that there are answers provided to exercises in their grammar practice book for self-check. English usage reference books help people avoid making mistakes in English. In such books learners and other users  of English can find answers to their questions about correct English usage. I believe the following English usage reference books are comprehensive and very helpful:</p>
<p>1. Longman Guide to English Usage.<br />
2. Practical English Usage (Michael Swan).3. An A-Z of English Grammar &amp; Usage (Grammar Reference) [Paperback]<br />
3. Geoffrey N. Leech (Author), Benita Cruickshank (Author), Roz Ivanic (Author), 2001<br />
4. The Cambridge Guide to English Usage.<br />
5. Collins Cobuild English Usage.<br />
6. Fowler&#8217;s Modern English Usage.</p>
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		<title>By: John Fotheringham</title>
		<link>http://l2mastery.com/blog/methods/why-grammar-based-instruction-is-bunk#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have spent half my career as a language teacher, teacher trainer, and corporate trainer, and have a great respect for the profession. Teachers can indeed serve a very important role. But the keyword here is &quot;can&quot;. The sad truth is that, despite the best of intentions, most teachers spend most classroom time on fundamentally ineffective methods. As I&#039;ve said many times, languages cannot be taught, only acquired. The teacher&#039;s role then is to provide meaningful, interesting input for students and creating an environment in which they feel comfortable using the language.

Languages are obviously controlled in the brain, but it happens at a near sub-conscious level, just like walking. I, too, often use driving as analogy (but in a different way). Just like walking, the physical ability to drive a car smoothly comes from lots of practice driving, not conscious knowledge of the rules of the road. The latter is obviously important, but one could know every word of the rulebook and not be able to drive worth a damn. The same is true for knowledge of grammar. As I saw in Japan, many Japanese native speakers (including English teachers) had memorized massive amounts of knowledge about English grammar, but were not able to apply it in speaking. This is the difference between declarative and procedural memory (you are promoting the former, while the latter is what really matters when it comes to acquiring a foreign language.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent half my career as a language teacher, teacher trainer, and corporate trainer, and have a great respect for the profession. Teachers can indeed serve a very important role. But the keyword here is &#8220;can&#8221;. The sad truth is that, despite the best of intentions, most teachers spend most classroom time on fundamentally ineffective methods. As I&#8217;ve said many times, languages cannot be taught, only acquired. The teacher&#8217;s role then is to provide meaningful, interesting input for students and creating an environment in which they feel comfortable using the language.</p>
<p>Languages are obviously controlled in the brain, but it happens at a near sub-conscious level, just like walking. I, too, often use driving as analogy (but in a different way). Just like walking, the physical ability to drive a car smoothly comes from lots of practice driving, not conscious knowledge of the rules of the road. The latter is obviously important, but one could know every word of the rulebook and not be able to drive worth a damn. The same is true for knowledge of grammar. As I saw in Japan, many Japanese native speakers (including English teachers) had memorized massive amounts of knowledge about English grammar, but were not able to apply it in speaking. This is the difference between declarative and procedural memory (you are promoting the former, while the latter is what really matters when it comes to acquiring a foreign language.) </p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://l2mastery.com/blog/methods/why-grammar-based-instruction-is-bunk#comment-1816</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Fotheringham writes: &quot;Language ability cannot be taught. It can only be learned. Most schools, educators, and parents have come to believe that they 
have to “teach” children both native and foreign languages. This reveals
 a basic misconception about language, which has been thoroughly 
debunked by researchers far smarter than I, including Steven Pinker of 
MIT, and Stephen Krashen of University of Southern California. In a 
nutshell, their research shows that human language is an innate physical
 skill akin to walking. You were not “taught” how to walk; you figured 
it out through trial and error. Your ability to speak your native 
language is the same.&quot;

I disagree with those allegations. Are you saying that teaching languages is unnecessary and teachers of languages are not needed?
Your comparison of learning a foreign language to learning to walk is wrong, because learning a language is a mental process of developing language skills (not a physical process), and learning to walk is a physical process that involves developing a physical ability. I can draw a really valid comparison in this regard. Can you safely drive a vehicle on the road without knowing theoretical traffic rules? Will you learn traffic rules while driving on the road? So you must know theoretical traffic rules before practical driving on the road. Grammar rules can be compared to traffic rules; grammar rules have a similar role for learning and using a foreign language successfully and correctly to reduce mistakes and misunderstanding.
Without adequate knowledge of traffic rules a driver can easily cause an accident or can endanger traffic safety. Fortunately grammatical mistakes don&#039;t have such potential serious consequences as traffic violations do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Fotheringham writes: &#8220;Language ability cannot be taught. It can only be learned. Most schools, educators, and parents have come to believe that they<br />
have to “teach” children both native and foreign languages. This reveals<br />
 a basic misconception about language, which has been thoroughly<br />
debunked by researchers far smarter than I, including Steven Pinker of<br />
MIT, and Stephen Krashen of University of Southern California. In a<br />
nutshell, their research shows that human language is an innate physical<br />
 skill akin to walking. You were not “taught” how to walk; you figured<br />
it out through trial and error. Your ability to speak your native<br />
language is the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree with those allegations. Are you saying that teaching languages is unnecessary and teachers of languages are not needed?<br />
Your comparison of learning a foreign language to learning to walk is wrong, because learning a language is a mental process of developing language skills (not a physical process), and learning to walk is a physical process that involves developing a physical ability. I can draw a really valid comparison in this regard. Can you safely drive a vehicle on the road without knowing theoretical traffic rules? Will you learn traffic rules while driving on the road? So you must know theoretical traffic rules before practical driving on the road. Grammar rules can be compared to traffic rules; grammar rules have a similar role for learning and using a foreign language successfully and correctly to reduce mistakes and misunderstanding.<br />
Without adequate knowledge of traffic rules a driver can easily cause an accident or can endanger traffic safety. Fortunately grammatical mistakes don&#8217;t have such potential serious consequences as traffic violations do.</p>
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