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		<title>What are the best Chinese dictionaries for Android and Apple mobile devices?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quick search in the Android Marketplace or Apple App store reveals pages and pages of Chinese dictionaries, including free, ad supported versions, as well as paid apps between $1 and $20 USD. After sampling a number of them, I have settled in on two favorites that seem to be the easiest to use, have [...]]]></description>
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<p>A quick search in the Android Marketplace or Apple App store reveals pages and pages of Chinese dictionaries, including free, ad supported versions, as well as paid apps between $1 and $20 USD. After sampling a number of them, I have settled in on two favorites that seem to be the easiest to use, have the most features, and offer both free and pro versions:</p>
<h2>Best Chinese Dictionary App on Android</h2>
<p>So far, my favorite Chinese dictionary for Android is <em><strong>Hanping Ch-En</strong></em>. There is a free version and a paid version for £4.99 (about $7.75 USD).</p>
<p>Here is a list of the features I like best (as available on version 2.2.6 Pro):</p>
<ul>
<li><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1438" title="Hanping C-E Icon - Screen Capture" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Hanping-C-E-Icon-Screen-Capture-200x300.png" alt="" width="200" height="300" />Traditional and simplified Chinese characters.</li>
<li>Search by Chinese characters, Hanyu Pinyin, English terms (install the free &#8220;HanWriting IME&#8221; app so you can actually write characters by hand like on an iPod Touch, iPhone or iPad).</li>
<li>Search for characters in the beginning, middle or end of a term (click the little wrench icon to right of the search field to change this setting.)</li>
<li>Pinyin is shown right below each character on the detail page.</li>
<li>Chinese count words are shown when appropriate (e.g. 個, 雙, 台, etc.)</li>
<li>Drill down on individual characters within multiple character words.</li>
<li>Audio versions of Chinese terms.</li>
<li>Shortcut to more details, sample sentences, Google dictionary and Wiktionary via the Android browser.</li>
<li>Shortcut to &#8220;save to clipboard&#8221; so you can paste into emails, text messages, other dictionaries, etc.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Best Chinese Dictionary App on iOS4</h2>
<p>My favorite app for iPod Touches, iPhones and iPads is <strong><em>KTdict C-E</em></strong>. There is a<a title="Download in iTunes" href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ktdict-c-e-chinese-english/id291179703?mt=8" target="_blank"> free version</a> and a <a title="Buy in iTunes" href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ktdict-c-e-chinese-english/id307726726?mt=8" target="_blank">pro version</a> for $3.99.</p>
<p>Here are the top features as I see it (as available on version 1.6.1 Pro):</p>
<ul>
<li><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1437" title="KTdict C-E Screencapture" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_0001-200x300.png" alt="" width="200" height="300" />Beautiful UI (user interface) as one would expect on an Apple device.</li>
<li>Traditional and simplified Chinese characters.</li>
<li>Search by Chinese characters (which is a breeze with Apple&#8217;s handwriting input), Hanyu Pinyin, and English.</li>
<li>Drill down on individual characters within multiple character words. Each character can then be copied to the clip board, looked up in the dictionary by itself, or searched within Google, Baidu, Wikipedia (English and Chinese versions), Unihan, Wiktionary, and Dictionary.com (this feature alone is well worth the money!)</li>
<li>Words you search for are automatically added to the history so you can easily review them later.</li>
<li>The &#8220;Trainer&#8221; feature quizes you on words you&#8217;ve saved as flashcards. You can create flashcards with the search results, from your favorited terms, and from words in your history.</li>
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		<title>Review of The Polyglot Project, an Online Foreign Language Reading Tool</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Polyglot Project is a new online reading tool with pop-up translations when you double click on words. The site is still in its infancy, but holds a lot of promise if they continue to expand their library and languages as their website promises. As always, here are the pros and cons of the site [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1373" title="The Polyglot Project" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/The-Polyglot-Project-Ebook.png" alt="" width="320" height="235" /><a href="http://www.polyglotproject.com" target="_blank">The Polyglot Project</a></em> is a new online reading tool with pop-up translations when you double click on words. The site is still in its infancy, but holds a lot of promise if they continue to expand their library and languages as their website promises.</p>
<p>As always, here are the pros and cons of the site as I see them:</p>
<h2>The Good</h2>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s free &amp; easy to sign up:</strong> As it stands, the site is completely free and it only requires you to fill in an email, password and your native language. That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p><strong>Intuitive, easy to use design:</strong> Once you&#8217;re logged in, you just pick a book from the library, and begin reading. To look up a word, simply double-click on it and the translation in your native tongue will pop-up briefly.</p>
<p><strong>Navigation shortcuts:</strong> Instead of clicking the next or back arrows, you cut just press the &#8220;n&#8221; or &#8220;p&#8221; keys for &#8220;next&#8221; and &#8220;previous&#8221; respectively.</p>
<p><strong>Simple pop-ups:</strong> Many dictionary pop-up systems show too much information, which not only slows down the interface, but also slows down you the learner. There is no chance to get lost or distracted as The Polyglot Project only flashes a single word translation for a short time.</p>
<p><strong>System memory:</strong> The system automatically adds any books or languages you&#8217;ve browsed to your account dashboard so you can quickly jump back to what you were previously reading. You can of course delete books or languages you no longer wish to view.</p>
<h2>The Bad</h2>
<p><strong>Limited titles: </strong>So far, there are only a few titles available on the site, and they are all literary classics. I like the classics just as much as anyone, but they probably aren&#8217;t the best choice for someone just starting out in a language. For starters, they tend to use archaic vocabulary and structures no longer used in the modern language (which is of little use for someone trying to communicate with native speakers. I much prefer getting a firm handle on the modern language before delving into the classics. I hope they will soon add some modern fiction and non-fiction to the mix.</p>
<p><strong>Limited languages:</strong> So far, the site only offers four Indo-European languages: German, Spanish, Italian and French. As an Asiaphile, I would greatly like to see Chinese, Japanese, and Korean join the list, as well as other top-ten, must-learn languages like Arabic. I understand, however, that each of these languages poses serious technical challenges: since they don&#8217;t naturally include spacing between words, it makes it hard for pop-up dictionaries to parse between different terms.</p>
<p><strong>No way to save vocabulary:</strong> In its current design, there is no way to save and then later review words you have looked up. This is my favorite part of using sites like <a title="Foreign Language Mastery's Review of LingQ" href="http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/lingq" target="_self">LingQ</a> and I have come to expect it in foreign language reading sites.</p>
<p><strong>Reading only:</strong> Reading is a wonderful tool for improving your vocabulary and writing skills, but it should take a back seat to (or at least be supplemented by an equal portion of) listening. This is especially true when you just start out in a foreign language. Many language learners spend far too much time reading and not enough time listening, leading to big vocabularies and strong reading and writing skills, but often causing poor listening skills and strange pronunciation patterns (i.e. they say words how they <em>think </em>they are pronounced based on reading, not how native speakers actually pronounce them).</p>
<h2>The Verdict</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.polyglotproject.com" target="_blank">The Polyglot Project</a> is definitely worth checking out, and acts as a good supplement to your other foreign language learning activities. If they are able to expand their library with modern books and additional languages, they will have created a very powerful language tool, and will likely attract a strong following.</p>
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		<title>Review of YellowBridge Online Chinese Dictionary</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[YellowBridge (黃橋 HuángQiáo) is one of the best online Chinese dictionaries available today. When I studying on or near my computer, it is the first place I go if confronted by new Chinese vocabulary or characters. (If you are studying on the go, however, check out my article on the best Chinese dictionary apps for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1360" title="Yellow Bridge" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Yellow-Bridge-300x294.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="294" />YellowBridge (黃橋 <em>HuángQiáo</em>) is one of the best online Chinese dictionaries available today. When I studying on or near my computer, it is the first place I go if confronted by new Chinese vocabulary or characters. (If you are studying on the go, however, check out <a title="What are the best Chinese dictionaries for Android and Apple mobile devices?" href="http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/best-chinese-dictionary-apps-for-android-and-apple" target="_blank">my article on the best Chinese dictionary apps for Android and iOS4</a>)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a rundown of the good and the bad of YellowBridge:</p>
<h2>The Good</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>It&#8217;s free!</strong> For being so feature-rich, we are lucky to have access to Yellow-Bridge for a grand total of zero dollars.</li>
<li><strong>Audio recordings:</strong> This wonderfully useful feature used to be available only to paid members, but is now free to everyone. Hurray! Just click the speech bubble below each term to hear it pronounced.</li>
<li><strong>Presentation of both Simplified &amp; Traditional  Chinese Characters: <span style="font-weight: normal;">This is a Godsend. While most Chinese learners end up learning &#8220;Simplified Characters&#8221; (简体字 <em>JiǎnTǐ Zì</em>) since they are what&#8217;s used in Mainland China, I highly recommend that you also learn &#8220;Traditional Characters&#8221; (繁體字 <em>FánTǐ Zì</em>). Not only the traditional forms still used in Taiwan, Hong Kong, and many Chinese communities across the globe, but they give you direct access to ancient Chinese culture. And if you are going to learn both, it is far easier to go &#8220;downhill&#8221;, that is, starting with the traditional forms and then moving onto their simplified counterparts.</span></strong></li>
<li><strong>Multiple search options:<span style="font-weight: normal;"> You can search from Chinese to English, English to Chinese, and even Pinyin to Chinese.</span></strong></li>
<li><strong>Break down of character radicals and components:</strong> This is a linguists dream. YellowBridge includes links to the etymological origins of each semantic or phonetic chunk. Be careful though; it is easy to get lost in the details and forget what you originally went there to look up!</li>
<li><strong>Animated stroke order:</strong> This is an amazingly powerful tool that used to available on only the most expensive electronic dictionaries. Now it&#8217;s free online. If only I had started learning Chinese characters ten years later&#8230;</li>
</ul>
<h2>The Bad</h2>
<p>There are few things to complain about with YellowBridge. There are, however, a few things missing that I hope they eventually add to the mix:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Example sentences:</strong> It&#8217;s always helpful to see how a given word is used in a sentence, especially when looking up less common words, or terms with multiple meanings.</li>
<li><strong>Ability to translate entire phrases:</strong> As it stands, YellowBridge, like most dictionaries, only translates words and cannot parse complete phrases or sentences as Google Translate does. It would be great if they could someday add this feature, lest otherwise faithful users jump ship and swim toward Googler shores&#8230;</li>
<li><strong>A mobile app:</strong> I usually need dictionaries most when I&#8217;m out on the go and see something on a sign, in a food menu, or struggle to communicate a particular word with the person across the table at a coffee shop. While you can of course access the dictionary via your mobile device&#8217;s web browser, it would make life much easier if they developed a mobile version for iPod Touch/iPhone, Android, etc.</li>
</ul>
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		<title>Interview with Randy the Yearlyglot from FluentEveryYear.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As posted on his site, Randy is &#8220;on a mission to learn a new language fluently every year.&#8221; His current project is Italian, with Lithuanian as a side-project saved for weekend fun. Randy has his language-learning head screwed on tightly, and I firmly agree with his contention that learners can reach &#8220;conversational fluency&#8221; (the ability [...]]]></description>
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<p>As posted on his site, Randy is &#8220;on a mission to learn a new language fluently every year.&#8221; His current project is Italian, with Lithuanian as a side-project saved for weekend fun. Randy has his language-learning head screwed on tightly, and I firmly agree with his contention that learners can reach &#8220;conversational fluency&#8221; (the ability to talk with native speakers on a variety of topics) in a year if you spend enough time doing the right things. As we both have observed, most people never reach this level in a language because they neither spend enough time nor do they do the right things&#8230;</p>
<p>Read or listen to the interview to see how he makes the time and find out what he considers &#8220;doing the right things&#8221;.</p>
<h2>Listen to the Interview</h2>
<p>This interview was recorded on June 6, 2010. It has been edited for time. Click the red arrow to listen:</p>
<h2>Read the Interview</h2>
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<td width="93%" valign="top"><em>This is episode five of the Foreign Language Mastery podcast. I&#8217;m your host John Fotheringham. In today&#8217;s show I interview Randy &#8220;The Yearlyglot&#8221;  from yearlyglot.com. To read a transcript of this episode and to find tips, tools and tech for mastering any foreign language, go to languagemastery.com. Here is the phone interview, originally recorded June 6, 2010.</em></p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> Maybe we can start out&#8230; just tell me a little bit more about how you got started in language learning and what languages you&#8217;ve learned so far. And then I&#8217;ll be asking you a bit more about your Yearlyglot project.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"> </span>Maybe I should have prepared a little bit so that I would have some canned answers, but that&#8217;s all right.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> I like the uncanned answers better. The real deal.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Nice.</p>
<p>[Laughter]</p>
<p>I guess my whole life I&#8217;ve always just been, sort of, interested in language just in general. I don&#8217;t really have a good explanation for why. I started, I guess you might say, all the way back in kindergarten. My kindergarten teacher actually taught us Spanish words at the end of every day. <span style="font-size: 10.8333px;">One new Spanish word. So that might actually be the thing that got me going in this direction. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10.8333px;">By middle school I was taking Spanish classes. In high school I was taking German classes and  French classes. I actually had&#8230;one of my best friends in high school was a Filipino guy who had some trouble with the English language because he and his family had just moved here. He and I took up a pretty close friendship just on the principal that he asked for some help on the first day and I gave it to him. So in addition to everything else he taught me a lot of Filipino Tagalog&#8230;</span></td>
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<td valign="top">And I just sort of picked up on everything every time it was put in front of me. I would have never taken the German and French classes except for the school didn&#8217;t offer anything past Spanish II. It was weird. I just wanted to keep doing language and I ran out of Spanish so I switched to German and then I met this Filipino guy and then learned some French and before you know it I&#8217;m like, wow, it&#8217;s not so hard. I want to learn every language.<span style="font-size: 10.8333px;"><strong>John:</strong> Right. It is addictive that&#8217;s for sure. So the whole &#8220;yearlyglot&#8221; idea of learning any language in one year or less is that something you developed more recently or is that something you&#8217;ve kind of always gone towards?</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> You know, that actually is a very recent development. It comes off the back of learning Russian pretty much fluently in one year, after everybody told me it would take six, seven, eight years of study. And, you know, I still don&#8217;t claim to be an expert, but I put in some time and did the work and after one year, like I said, I&#8217;m pretty fluent in Russian for a guy who&#8217;s only been learning for a year.</td>
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<td valign="top">And so, everybody says that&#8217;s one of the hardest languages. If I can do it with that, I should be able to do with any language. And I don&#8217;t see why anybody else couldn&#8217;t do it, especially with the easier languages; something like a Romance language that&#8217;s so close to English anyways. There&#8217;s no reason you shouldn&#8217;t be able to learn that in a year. Benny proves that a lot times you can do that in three months.<strong>John:</strong> Yah, I often say, I think if you do things right, there&#8217;s no reason you can&#8217;t at least get to a modicum of fluency in six months. I think that is a good, realistic target. I think six years is ridiculous but that gets to the issue which is, if you do it the old academic, sit-in-a-classroom way, it <em>will</em> take six years.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Randy:</strong></span> Right.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> And so maybe the next question I have for you is, how exactly do you go about learning a language that you can do it in under a year?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> I never really formalized a learning method until I started writing the blog and now I&#8217;m starting to get it really in front of me and see that, oh,</td>
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<td valign="top">&#8220;If I move this over here it would work better&#8221; and that sort of thing. So, actually I&#8217;m starting to see a lot of logic behind some of the more commercial products, like you think of a Rosetta Stone or something like that, and all of us in the community kind of ridicule Rosetta Stone, but there are some things they do right. I think particularly the order in which you go about things: you start of with some really basic stuff and then you just build on that. I think if you see returns quickly you get encouraged. I guess that&#8217;s my biggest thing is if you can get encouraged you will keep doing it.So I try to do things like, if I can learn how to say &#8220;where is&#8221; and then I can learn how to say &#8220;Thank you&#8221;, and then I can learn how to say &#8220;Excuse me&#8221;, I can immediately turn those three things into &#8220;Excuse me, where is whatever. Thank you.&#8221; And now I actually had sort of a small conversation at the cause of just learning three things.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>John:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> So I think that that&#8217;s really what I try to do. I try to find a minimum amount of learning that you can get the maximum usage out of, and I actually turn it into practical example sentences and those sort of things. And that way, you know, like I said, if you get really encouraged by what you&#8217;re learning, you&#8217;ll feel more momentum and you&#8217;ll keep going.</p>
<p><strong>John: </strong>How do you feel about the whole input versus output debate? I mean, full disclosure: I&#8217;m definitely of the input camp. Though I&#8217;ve lived abroad for most of the last decade. And so it&#8217;s not practical for those that are gonna be moving to Japan tomorrow to spend six months on, you know, listening and reading input.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> And by the same token, it&#8217;s also not practical for those who are <em>not</em> going to move to expect to do a lot of output either. I think that the input versus output debate is mostly&#8230;it feels to me mostly like a constructed disagreement; sort of manufactured for the sake of ratings or clicks or whatever. Anyway, because really you need both.</td>
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<td valign="top">It might serve you better to have more output if you&#8217;re in person and it might serve you better to have more input if you&#8217;re studying at home. But at the end, if you don&#8217;t do both, you&#8217;re not going to learn. So I think that the debate itself is kind of silly. It&#8217;s entertaining but it lost the entertainment value a long time ago for me.<strong>John:</strong> You know, I have my opinions but I really want to just share the opinions of others, you know, what&#8217;s worth for them? Because obviously everyone&#8217;s different. and what has worked for me won&#8217;t necessarily work for everybody. Though I do think 90% of the things probably work for everybody and it&#8217;s that extra 10% that is different. And that&#8217;s why you need to present a variety of methods.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Yeah, absolutely. It&#8217;s like the &#8220;Pareto Principle&#8221; of 80/20. Everybody can benefit from that 80.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> I think we&#8217;ve read the same books&#8230; So back to, then, what&#8217;s worked for you? So, you build on the basics, which makes sense. What other do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts can you share? I know there&#8217;s a lot.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> My biggest don&#8217;t&#8230; I love to ramble on and on about don&#8217;ts&#8230; Maybe it&#8217;s a little too negative but&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> The first post I put on my language blog was the top 10 <em>not</em> to do list items in a language.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> I think that my biggest don&#8217;t is &#8220;don&#8217;t put too much pressure on yourself.&#8221; People worry about how far back they are in the book or how much chapters they&#8217;ve done or how many words they know. It becomes so stressful that you actually&#8230; you lower the quality of your learning for the sake of getting more quantity. And for me that&#8217;s the biggest don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s easy to over-stress yourself. It&#8217;s all about staying positive. Anybody who has a positive attitude can succeed.</td>
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<td valign="top">I look at people&#8230; here in Chicago, it&#8217;s very diverse; it&#8217;s like a world community. And I&#8217;m everyday surrounded by people speaking hundreds of different languages. And what&#8217;s interesting to me is that when they speak to me they don&#8217;t speak correctly or properly. But they&#8217;re not afraid to do it.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong><strong> </strong>And I think about people I know who are like, &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m trying to learn Spanish&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m trying to learn this.&#8221; And, you&#8217;ll never hear them actually do it. They never try. They just say they&#8217;re trying. I&#8217;m on the bus with somebody who is asking for directions and they&#8217;re butchering English but they&#8217;re not afraid to do it.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> That&#8217;s so important.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> The fear of the pain of doing something&#8230;I think that turns so many people off&#8230; Whether it&#8217;s a language, whether it&#8217;s getting in shape; I mean, it&#8217;s all the same. Usually the fear of the task is worse the actual task itself.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Absolutely. The anticipation of, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s going to be so much work.&#8221; But, I was watching an interview with Will Smith recently, and he was talking about how his dad had a shop and broke down the brick wall and then asked his sons to rebuild the brick wall. And the kids both said, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s impossible. That would take forever.&#8221;</td>
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<td>And his dad said, &#8220;I don&#8217;t care how you do it. Don&#8217;t think about building the whole wall. Just lay one brick, and just make sure every time that you lay that brick perfectly; you don&#8217;t care about anything else. And day by day, and brick by brick, after several weeks or months, or he didn&#8217;t really say how long, but, they had rebuild the brick wall of the shop.</td>
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<td>That&#8217;s so motivational. You know, when you think of doing things, don&#8217;t think of how far you have to go or how long or hard the journey is; you just think about doing each step the best you can. And eventually you look back and you&#8217;re surprised at how much you&#8217;ve done and how easy it&#8217;s become.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>John:</strong> Right. That&#8217;s really a good metaphor. I like that.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy: </span></strong>You know, especially with languages because there is a lot of work.  We&#8217;d be fooling ourselves to say, &#8220;Oh yeah. Anybody can do it in a week or two weeks.&#8221;  You know, there <em>is</em> a lot, but you can do those things that keeps you motivated. And then you can look back and say, &#8220;Holy cow! That whole journey was fun and it wasn&#8217;t as hard as I thought it was gonna be.&#8221;</td>
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<td>I really like the metaphor you drew to working out. That particularly, for me, has always been one my favorite analogies for pretty much anything difficult in life. Because I go to the gym every morning. I weight trainer in the morning before work.</td>
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<td>Everyday I go in there and I have to push up a weigh. And I have a goal in mind&#8230;every time I go I try to push five more pounds than the last time. Now, I don&#8217;t always succeed at doing it. But week by week I am pushing more weight every time than I was a week before.</td>
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<td valign="top">You look at that long-term goal of, I want to bench-press 250 pounds or I want to squat 400 pounds, and you think, &#8220;Oh my god. That&#8217;s so far off and impossible.&#8221; But each week you look back and say, &#8220;Wow, I remember when I could only do 160.&#8221; And overtime, you know, you watch yourself change, and you watch your strength grow and what it does more than anything else in my opinion is it makes your mind strong. And when your mind is strong you believe you can do anything. And once your mind is strong there&#8217;s nothing that can stop you. It might be days or weeks or months but there&#8217;s no task you won&#8217;t attack. That&#8217;s the attitude I like to have.<strong>John: </strong>Time plus effort.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Absolutely.</p>
<p><strong>John: </strong>It is in the language matter that my main interest is martial arts. And I always like to share with people that the word &#8220;Kung Fu&#8221; (or 功夫) actually means &#8220;skill through effort&#8221; or &#8220;skill through time&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10.8333px;"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Nice.</span></p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> And it&#8217;s such a good analogy. The language. It&#8217;s just doing it day in day out and eventually you&#8217;ll get better.</td>
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<td valign="top">You can&#8217;t <em>not</em> get better. One of the reasons so many people fail, I think, is because they&#8217;re just not doing it ultimately. Sitting in a classroom is not doing it. Even watching a movie. You put in a foreign language movie. That&#8217;s not actually doing it. You must reactively doing it.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Right. Classroom. That&#8217;s a really great topic for me to go on and on about. I think that, like I was saying, about the weight training and stuff and about your mind being strong.</td>
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<td>When you talk about signing up for a class, that&#8217;s always the really the cop out I think. You want to do something or you say you want to do something so you sign up for the class and that becomes like the token effort of saying, &#8220;Hey, I tried.&#8221; But the lessons are always so far apart and so short, and even worse they&#8217;re retarded by the fact that you have to teach a whole group. Not just one person.</td>
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<td valign="top">You&#8217;re not even putting up a fraction of the effort you will do spending that same time on your own with a book once a week. The worst thing about a classroom is that if you don&#8217;t do it you can blame the teacher. &#8220;Oh, I tried but the teacher was no good&#8221;, or</td>
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<td>&#8220;The class was no good&#8221;, or &#8220;It was too far away&#8221;, or &#8220;It was too expensive&#8221;, or whatever. But you don&#8217;t take any responsibility when you sign up for a class the way that you would if you just grab a book and just start reading it. Or grab a CD and start listening to it.<strong>John: </strong>OK. Any other tips you&#8217;d like to add or any don&#8217;ts?<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Well, there was one thing that sparked something in my mind that you said a moment ago too about a lot of people aren&#8217;t trying, and how it&#8217;s a lot of work. And it reminded me of something else that&#8230;recently I just really started thinking about this, is that <em>everything</em> is work.</td>
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<td valign="top">Any skill&#8230;anything that you do well, is the product of hours and hours and hours of practice and work. Some people may have a talent in whatever. You can&#8217;t teach talent. But nobody becomes successful on talent alone. You have to have the skill. When it comes to anything in life, but language is a great example of this, it really feels to me like people give up too early. And even at the easiest phase, all you have to do is just crack that book, or talk to that tutor, or put on that CD, or whatever it is that you do to study, you know, instead of turning on the TV. And it&#8217;s so easy, effortless, to keep doing&#8230; You know, once you do something, and you know, it&#8217;s effortless&#8230;it&#8217;s actually more work for you to stop and go turn on that TV and ignore your language time. Sometimes I find it astounding that people actually give up, because, you know, that means you&#8217;re making a choice to quit.[Laughter]</td>
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<td valign="top">Just like my gym metaphor. Again, if I get sick and I don&#8217;t want to go in the gym because I&#8217;m not feeling well or something. I automatically start to miss it and after a day or two, I&#8217;m like, I want to go in earlier and try to make up for all that time. There is a point, like if you miss a lot of time like a few weeks or something&#8230;</td>
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<td>15:29</td>
<td>there is a point where that habit starts to fall off and then you have to do the work of rebuilding it. And the same thing is with everything certainly with languages. I just think that over all unless there&#8217;s like a death in the family or something, there is no thing that can stop me from spending an hour a day learning something about languages, or whatever, because that&#8217;s what I want. How could I stop? I would have to make a conscious decision to actually stop.<strong>John: </strong>That leads to another, I think, important point, which is that it <em>does</em> take time. It does take consistency. But I also think that people overestimate how many hours a <em>day</em> it will take. They&#8217;re so used to sitting in a classroom for two to three hours.</td>
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<td valign="top">16:10</td>
<td valign="top">And realistically I don&#8217;t usually study for more than 15 or 30 minutes of the time. I just try to do that three times a day, everyday. That&#8217;s much, much more powerful than doing four hours a week but all at once.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Yeah. If you over burden your mind it starts to fight back against you. Yah, I do the same thing. I wake up in the morning and I browse a vocabulary list or I look at something or just read a blog entry or something for fifteen minutes.</td>
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<td>16:41</td>
<td>And then I head off to the gym; go to work. On the ride home from work, I spend 15, 30 minutes, however long it is depending on the traffic that day; look at some phrase lists, or whatever I&#8217;m doing that particular day, and again once a night. So yeah, probably about the same as you. Three times a day for maybe 15 to 30 minutes.</td>
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<td valign="top">17:01</td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John: </strong>As you said listening the way they workout on their way home; it&#8217;s just making that a habit. It&#8217;s, I&#8217;m going to do the dishes. Pop in the iPod. In line at the store, OK, put in the iPod. Every chance that you&#8217;re not doing something that requires your 100% attention, that can become another learning opportunity. It doesn&#8217;t have to be sitting down on a desk.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> And I would even go so far as to say that, you know, a lot of times when people like us use that analogy, you know, we say, &#8220;Five minutes at the supermarket line&#8221;, or &#8220;15 minutes on the train&#8221;, I think that listeners or readers sometimes get the impression that we&#8217;re saying, &#8220;You should do that <em>every</em> time.&#8221; And really, that&#8217;s not the case. All you need to do is just make use of <em>one </em>of those times over the course of your day.</td>
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<td>And you&#8217;re already doing something. I don&#8217;t spend every five-minute line wait reading something about languages and I don&#8217;t spend every cab ride or every train ride trying to study vocabulary. I just do <em>some</em>-times. But it&#8217;s <em>enough </em>times.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>John: </strong>That&#8217;s a good point and that goes back the fear of doing it often prevents people from starting.<span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Randy:</strong></span> It can sound really scary when you hear people talk about it or you read some of these language hacking tips. All of this stuff, we&#8217;re all trying to help people. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re all here. All of us are trying to help people to see that it&#8217;s easy. And sometimes there&#8217;s so many tips that people get overwhelmed and they think it&#8217;s going to be too hard.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> I think in it&#8217;s aggregate though it&#8217;s doing a service. I mean, I think so many people do things so far the wrong way, and get so fed up, and they develop this whole foreign language phobia, and this belief that, &#8220;I&#8217;m just not good at learning languages so I can never learn.&#8221; I mean, almost everybody I know is that way.</td>
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<td>It&#8217;s that sort of the norm is, &#8220;I&#8217;m not good at languages.&#8221; And so I think it takes a lot of us; a lot of voices; a lot of echoes, for it to hopefully, eventually, get to, not everybody, but at least those that want to learn. Which I&#8230;I just hope that enough of our voices reach them, that they can shake themselves out of this belief that they can&#8217;t do it.</td>
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<td valign="top">19:22</td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy: </span></strong>Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think most of us probably all have similar stories about struggling with the first one or, in my own personal struggle, this is going to sound funny from a guy who tells people it&#8217;s easy to learn languages, but I actually have such a hard time hearing that sometimes I don&#8217;t even understand <em>English</em>.[Laughter]</p>
<p>I&#8217;m constantly asking people to repeat themselves and, you know, not understanding things that are said. And then you try to translate that into learning a <em>foreign</em> language, and it becomes a real challenge.</td>
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<td valign="top">20:01</td>
<td valign="top">So it&#8217;s one of those things where even though I&#8217;m telling you&#8230;I&#8217;m telling telling anybody who will listen, that I can learn a new language every year. And I&#8217;m totally not talking about the challenging part that anybody else who does this is going to have an easier time than I am.[Laughter]</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> Very good. So, what is your current language project and what is the next one you think?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Wow, well, the current language project is Italian. Although it&#8217;s never just one thing.. I&#8217;m planning a trip to Lithuania in a few months, so I guess, I allow myself the weekends to stray from Italian.</td>
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<td>20:42</td>
<td>So every weekend I&#8217;m learning a little bit of Lithuanian in anticipation of this trip, but during the week, I stay focused on Italian. But I haven&#8217;t selected my language for next year, and even if I have I wouldn&#8217;t admit it to anyone, but I do know that I&#8217;m starting to narrow in on one of maybe three. I&#8217;m very, very interested in Turkish. I&#8217;m living pretty close to Canada and I think that if I didn&#8217;t take advantage of French that would be foolish. And the third one is possibly Arabic.</td>
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<td valign="top">So, I&#8217;m not really sure. I haven&#8217;t chosen yet, but I think that right now I&#8217;m teetering between those three. I could come out as a surprise and just pick something totally unexpected, too.<span style="font-size: 10.8333px;">[Laughter]</span></p>
<p><strong>John: </strong>All right. We&#8217;ll just make a wrap up. If there&#8217;s only one thing you want listeners to hear about language learning what would it be?</td>
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<td>21:38</td>
<td><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy: </span></strong>When you show somebody you&#8217;ve spent even the smallest amount of time to learn about them, especially if you&#8217;re American, because we have a stigma to overcoming the world&#8230; If you show people that you have spent even smallest amount of time taking an interest in their language and in their culture, it&#8217;s so well-received that&#8230;it makes such a big difference on the way that you&#8217;re perceived and the way that your whole dealings with that person go. I was just recently at the bar watching a hockey game. Go Blackhawks. I hope they win the Stanley Cup.[Laughter]</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>John: </strong>Now you&#8217;re speaking foreign language to me. I don&#8217;t speak hockey. I&#8217;m sorry.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy: </span></strong>That&#8217;s all right. So a patron who had no place to sit was standing near my table and I started talking to her. And I picked up on her a Russian accent. So just on a whim, I&#8217;m assuming that I&#8217;m right, because there are a lot of Polish people in this town too&#8230;</td>
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<td>22:35</td>
<td>I said something to her in Russian and she immediately became my best friend for the rest of the night. I saw half a dozen&#8230;maybe a dozen guys come in and try to hit on her over the night and she blew them all off. It&#8217;s so interesting the way those little language niceties can change the way you&#8217;re perceived.<strong>John:</strong> And there&#8217;s motivation for you right there. I mean if you&#8217;re struggling just stay motivated in the language, look no further than that. It just opens up so many doors that really cannot be opened in another way. Well, it&#8217;s a pleasure talking to you, Randy.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy:</span></strong> Absolutely. Yeah. Have a great day, John.<strong>John: </strong>You too. Thanks so much, Randy.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy: </span></strong>Take care.</p>
<p><strong>John:</strong> Bye bye.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Randy: </span></strong>Bye.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Guest post by Antonio Graceffo</h2>
<h5><em>Antonio Graceffo is an applied linguist, and martial arts and adventure author living in Asia (check out our interview with him </em><a title="Interview with Antonio Graceffo" href="http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/antonio-graceffo" target="_self"><em>here</em></a><em>). </em><em>His books, including &#8221;The Monk from Brooklyn&#8221;, are available at </em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Fie%3DUTF8%26x%3D0%26ref%255F%3Dnb%255Fss%26y%3D0%26field-keywords%3Dantonio%2520graceffo%26url%3Dsearch-alias%253Dstripbooks&amp;tag=forelangmast-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957"><em>Amazon.com</em></a><em><img src="https://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=forelangmast-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.</em></h5>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1324" title="Chinese-Characters" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Chinese-Characters.png" alt="" width="288" height="216" />Googling around the internet I found a lot of sites where people had written in saying, “I am studying language XYZ, and I want to know how many words I have to know to be able to read a newspaper.”</p>
<p>This question is particularly relevant for people who are studying Chinese, where each word is a character, and most students know the exact number of characters that they can read. Whereas students who have been studying Spanish, German, or Vietnamese for a period of years, wouldn’t generally know the exact number, or may not even know an approximate number of words that they understand.</p>
<p>This information is relevant for anyone studying a foreign language, including English, particularly if your goal is to study at a university overseas or to work in a professional job in the foreign language environment.</p>
<p>Checking a number of websites, the answers varied substantially.</p>
<p>On aksville.com, someone took the time to write a long reply, explaining that major newspapers, such as USA Today, are written at a 6th to 8th grade level and require approximately 3,000 words to read.</p>
<p>Another site, called blogonebytes.com: &#8220;I read somewhere that to be able to carry on a good conversation in &#8220;Mandarin Chinese&#8221; one should know about 3,000 characters, and about 7,000 characters to read technical books.&#8221;</p>
<p>A follow up comment by a reader on the same site said, “You will need to know a minimum of 3000 characters to be proficient. You will need to be able to speak and understand in the range of 5000-7000 characters.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to Omniglot, a site which I tend to have a lot of respect for, “The largest Chinese dictionaries include about 56,000 characters, but most of them are archaic, obscure or rare variant forms. Knowledge of about 3,000 characters enables you to read about 99% of the characters used in Chinese newspapers and magazines. To read Chinese  literature, technical writings or Classical Chinese though, you need  to be familiar with at least 6,000 characters.”</p>
<p>I had always heard that the range was somewhere between 1,500 and 3,000 words to read a newspaper. In the case of Chinese, I know that I can read right about 3,000 characters, and yet, I absolutely cannot read a newspaper. If you hand me a newspaper, I can pick out words that I know, but I can’t actually read and understand the stories.</p>
<p>In Bangkok, I have several friends who are extremely conversant in Thai, and they can read a menu. But they would need an entire day and a dictionary to read a single newspaper story. And even then, they wouldn’t understand everything.</p>
<p>With German, after four years of studying and working as a translator and researcher in the country, I can obviously read anything. But, I have no idea how many words I know. Now that I am embarking on my study of Bahasa Malay, and also making plans to go back and finish learning Vietnamese, I am becoming very curious how long it will take to get my reading level anywhere close to what it is in English or Spanish. My own experience with Chinese made me question this 3,000 word figure. Also, as a person who earns most of his living from writing for magazines, newspapers, and books, I would hate to believe that I only write a 3,000 word vocabulary , and on a 6th to 8th grade level.</p>
<p>As many times as I attended 9th grade, you would think I would be writing at least at high school level.</p>
<p>The two facts that I wanted to verify were, the average reading level of The New York Times, my hometown paper, and the average number of words per edition.</p>
<p>The first question was easy to answer.</p>
<p>The May 2, 2005 edition of &#8220;Plain Language At Work Newsletter&#8221;, Published by <em>Impact Information Plain-Language Services</em>, explained that there are two generally accepted scales for determining the reading level of various publications. They are the <em>Rudolph Flesch Magazine Chart</em> (1949) and the <em>Robert Gunning Magazine Chart</em> (1952). Both charts analyzed such aspects of a magazine or newspaper such as, average sentence length in words and number of syllables per 100 words. Based on this information, they assigned a school grade reading-level to the publication. According to this rating system, The Times of India was considered the most difficult newspaper in the world, with a reading level of 15th grade. The London Times scored a 12th grade reading level, as did the LA Times and the Boston Globe. The survey must have been flawed, however, because they assigned The New York Times a reading level of 10th grade, which is lower than the LA Times, when everyone knows quite well that New York is better than California or any other place which is not New York.</p>
<p>If you get most of your news from Time Magazine, you might be pleased to know that Time and TV Guide both scored a 9th grade reading level.</p>
<p>The survey didn’t cover newspapers written in languages other than English, but if we assume that we are shooting for an average 10th grade level, this will probably be close to what you need to read a newspaper in any language.</p>
<p>The next question was much harder to answer. How many words do I need to read the New York Times? I have never believed the low estimates of 3,000 or less, simply because every event that happens anywhere in the world, any human situation can appear in the Times as a news story and could of course, require the appropriate vocabulary.</p>
<p>To answer the question, I went to the June 4, 2010 New York Times online and I chose 8 articles, taken from several different sections, because I assumed they would all require different vocabulary. The stories were: “Pelicans, Back From Brink of Extinction, Face Oil Threat”, “BP Funneling Some of Leak to the Surface”, “John Wooden, Who Built Incomparable Dynasty at U.C.L.A., Dies at 99”, “An Appraisal : Wooden as a Teacher: The First Lesson Was Shoelaces”, “Should you be able to discharge student loans into bankruptcy?”, “On the Road to Rock, Fueled by Excess” as well as other tidbits, announcements and follow up articles.</p>
<p>In some cases, if the articles were very long, I didn’t take them in their entirety, assuming there would be much repetition of words.</p>
<p>In all, I took parts of about 8 stories, comprising 51 pages of text. The stories I took didn’t even represent 10% of the total content of this particular edition of The New York Time, June 4, 2010 online edition.</p>
<p>I pasted the words into a word document, converted them to a single column table, which ran over 450 pages long. Then I sorted the table alphabetically. Up to this point, it was easy, just pressing buttons. Next, I had to go through all 450 pages, all 10s of thousands of words, removing duplicates. It was one of the most tedious exercises I have ever conducted in my life. It was exactly the type of obsessive compulsive behavior that gets people locked up in mental institutions. It took 16 hours. By the 10th hour, I began hallucinating. Nearing the 12th hour, I believed I was a hummingbird of some kind.</p>
<p>I allowed plural forms of nouns, so I counted “car” once and “cars” once. I also included all forms of a verb, so “walk” once, “walked” once, and “walking” once. I counted proper nouns, including place names, as the names of people and countries will come up in the news and you need to know them. Also, in foreign language, particularly Asian languages, the grammatical forms and proper names may not even be recognizable if you haven’t studied and learned them.</p>
<p>When I was finished, I found that the random sampling of stories I chose contained 4,139 unique words. This was much higher than the estimates I had read on some websites, but was well in line with what I suspected. If I had the energy to complete a similar analysis of the entire edition, I would have to believe the number would increase. And if we monitored the newspaper over a period of one month, analyzing the text every day, and comparing the vocabulary against an accumulated list, I would imagine that it would grow. Most likely the difference in vocabulary from day to day would be small, but still, the necessary vocabulary would increase.</p>
<p>Comparing the dialogues in my Chinese textbooks with the vocabulary that appeared in these New York Times articles, much of what I learned in school was useless. For example, all foreign language textbooks have chapters devoted to shopping at the market, where you have to memorize tedious lists of Fruits and vegetables. In these Times articles, not a single fruit name was mentioned. Neither my Vietnamese, Chinese, or Bahasa textbooks include the names of heads of state of various countries. But obviously, these names came up in world news stories.</p>
<p>Below is a small sampling of words that I found in the news story which, I don’t know how to say in Chinese. Some of these words, I question, however, if the average 9th grader would know them. Do 9th graders know: abetted, absinthe, archeo-feminist, or bearish?</p>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>abetted</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>albeit</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>assesses</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>bankruptcy</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>biofuels</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>able-bodied.</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>Amandine</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>assessment</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>batch</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>biography</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>abortions</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>ambivalent</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>assets</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>bawdy-sweet</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>black-clad</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>absinthe</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>anachronistic</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>asthmatic</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>bearish</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>bleak</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>absurd.</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>anarchic</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>audience-pleasing</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>Bedford</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>blemish</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>accord</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>Appended</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>aura</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>befriended</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>blockade</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>across-the-board</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>Archbishop</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>autobiography</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>behind-the-back</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>blowout</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>activists</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>archeo-feminist</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>autograph-seekers</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>benefits</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>bond</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>Advocates</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>articulate</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>awfully</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>best-selling</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>booster</em></td>
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<td width="115" valign="top"><em>aerodynamic</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>assertion</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>babbles</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>bioenergy</em></td>
<td width="115" valign="top"><em>breakthrough</em></td>
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<p>Names and proper nouns are important for understanding news stories. In language textbooks you may learn the names of major countries and the capital cities, but news happens in small cities and even villages as well. To read the news you need to know the names of political parties, famous people, economic theories, financial indices, global corporations, educational institutions, associations, and international organizations such as the UN.</p>
<p>All of these names were taken from the same collection of stories. Do you know how to say these in Vietnamese or write them in Thai?</p>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Cypriot</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Delta</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Geneva</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Mediterranean</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Bihar</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Baltic</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Democrat</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Greece</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Nehru</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Turkish-controlled</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Brooklyn</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Denmark</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Uttar</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Metropolitan</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Nasdaq</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Iranian</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Dow</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Midwesterner</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Mayor</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Polytechnique</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Louisiana</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Durbin</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Scotch</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Reich</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Iskenderun.</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>pro-Greek</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Dutch-Irish</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Rev.</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Latino</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Kentucky.</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>California</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Baptist</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>BENJAMIN</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Bonaventure/Agence</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Burke/Associated</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Cambridge</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Chicago-based</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Berkeley</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Pennsylvania.</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Bush</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Cyprus</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Barataria-Terrebonne</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Navy</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>BP</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Dallas-Fort</em></td>
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<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Audubon</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Gandhi.</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Bess</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Dalit</em></td>
<td width="130" valign="top"><em>Arce</em></td>
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<p>How many of the above terms were you able to translate or transliterate into the language that you study? This is the level of reading that an adult native-speaker can do, and this should be your goal. If the task doesn’t seem daunting enough, remember, in this article, we were only concerned with vocabulary. But you could have a vocabulary of a million words not be able to understand a newspaper or a book. For real communication, you need a comprehensive approach to language, which includes culture, syntax, context, and grammar.</p>
<p>It’s a long stretch. I know. And it can seem impossible. But remember, every Sunday in New York City Catholic mass is said in 29 languages. For more than a century, large numbers of immigrants, my family included, have been coming to America and Canada in search of a better life. Most of them learned English with less than half of the education of the average person reading this article.</p>
<p>So, if your Grandma and Grandpa could learn a new language to a level of functionality, so can you.</p>
<h2>Like Antonio&#8217;s writing?</h2>
<p>Check out some of his fantastic books on travel, martial arts, language learning and endangered cultures.</p>
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		<title>How Languages are Learned</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just poking around LingQ.com, a fantastic language learning site I can&#8217;t recommend enough, and saw this video on how languages have been learned since the dawn of time, where things went wrong more recently, and how we learners can correct course. They do a great job of breaking things down to the basic, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just poking around LingQ.com, a fantastic language learning site I can&#8217;t recommend enough, and saw this video on how languages have been learned since the dawn of time, where things went wrong more recently, and how we learners can correct course. They do a great job of breaking things down to the basic, fundamental truths.</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Interview with LiveMocha VP of Marketing &amp; Product, Clint Schmidt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this interview with Clint Schmidt, LiveMocha&#8217;s VP of Marketing &#38; Product, he explains what makes LiveMocha special, introduces some exciting new products coming down the pipe, and responds to some of my grilling questions about the role of grammar in language learning. Listen This interview was recorded on May 12, 2010. It has been edited [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Clint-Schmidt-Cropped1.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1233" title="Clint Schmidt - Cropped" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Clint-Schmidt-Cropped1-297x300.png" alt="" width="178" height="180" /></a>In this interview with Clint Schmidt, LiveMocha&#8217;s VP of Marketing &amp; Product, he explains what makes LiveMocha special, introduces some exciting new products coming down the pipe, and responds to some of my grilling questions about the role of grammar in language learning.</p>
<h2>Listen</h2>
<p>This interview was recorded on May 12, 2010. It has been edited for time. Click the red arrow to listen:</p>
<p><span style="color: #ffffff;">____</span></p>
<h2>Read</h2>
<p><em>For those of you using these materials as English learning materials, time stamps have been added to make it easier to go back and review certain sections.</em></p>
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<td width="93%" valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong><em>This is episode 4 of the Foreign Language Mastery podcast. I&#8217;m your host, John Fotheringham. In today&#8217;s show, I interview Clint Schmidt, vice president of marketing and product at LiveMocha. For show notes and a transcript, go to languagemastery.com. Here is the phone interview originally recorded on May 12, 2010.</em></p>
<p>So why don&#8217;t we start out, maybe you can just give my listeners a brief overview of LiveMocha, what it&#8217;s like, how it&#8217;s different from other sites? And then I&#8217;ll go on to some specific questions then.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Sure. LiveMocha is the world&#8217;s largest online language learning community with free and paid online language courses in 35 languages and more than 5 million members from over 200 countries around the world. LiveMocha is growing very rapidly and really quite virally around the world. A lot of them are word of mouth and recommendations from LiveMocha members.</td>
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<td valign="top">I think people are enthusiastic about LiveMocha because it&#8217;s really different from alternative or conventional language learning approaches. We studied some traditional self-study language products to understand why they were so ineffective. And we identified two critical elements that were lacking; motivation, sustained motivation, and opportunities to practice the language with another person. And we created LiveMocha to deliver both of those elements and to make language learning more fun and more effective and more social.</p>
<p>So each of our structured online courses include speaking and writing exercises that are reviewed by native speakers of the language that you&#8217;re learning. And those folks provide helpful tips for you to improve your language skills. And in returning the favor, you can help them learn your native language. So it&#8217;s community-driven learning and it&#8217;s all based on reciprocity. And it&#8217;s really exciting and it&#8217;s a very distinctive way to learn.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>02:36</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Yah, I&#8217;ve actually done a few of the corrections already on the site, a couple of people, you know, it pops up on the screen, &#8220;Would you like to correct so-on-so&#8217;s writing sample?&#8221; So you mentioned about motivation being one of the biggest problems with traditional language learning, which is absolutely true. How specifically does LiveMocha keep people motivated?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Part of the motivation problem, we found, is that it&#8217;s just boring to use some of the more traditional self-study methods. They give you a book. They trust that you&#8217;re going to read the book, and then you&#8217;re going to memorize it, and then you&#8217;re going to talk to yourself out loud in your room, in the closet or in your car. Wherever it is, you&#8217;re just going to talk to yourself, and that gets boring. It&#8217;s like homework without the teacher: you know if the teacher is not going to review it, you don&#8217;t do it.</td>
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<td valign="top">A couple of things that are motivating about LiveMocha; number 1, you know somebody is going to review your spoken and written French, or your spoken and written Russian right there. Somebody who is actually going to be there to review it. So you want to do a good job. It motivates you to do your best work, if you know that somebody else will review it.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s also motivating in another important way in that you&#8217;re actually working with real people. And these people are helping you over the course of time, repeatedly, make your way to the lessons. Perhaps you&#8217;re helping them as well to learn your native language. And you start to develop a bit of a rapport with people. And that rapport brings the social element back to language learning. Imagine that: being social as a part of language learning.</p>
<p>It helps keep people engaged. It helps keep people excited. It helps make it fun and bring a real person and a real character and a real interaction into the equation. And it doesn&#8217;t make it so brutally boring to go back and pick up that book again. Instead, it&#8217;s fun, interactive exercises with people there to help you along. We started to change the whole approach to make motivation no longer an issue.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>04:45</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Now, how do you guys account for quality control for tutors and for things like that? It&#8217;s obviously crowd source. It&#8217;s anyone who wants to help can help. But if you get a case where there&#8217;s a tutor who is giving blatantly bad advice or is being offensive or whatever, do you have a means to control that?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Absolutely. So I can answer that in a couple of ways. First the easiest answer to give is that if somebody says anything inappropriate or just not very nice perhaps, you can easily block any user on LiveMocha. When you do that, you will never see that person on LiveMocha again anywhere. They won&#8217;t appear to you in the community. In fact if a specific member of LiveMocha is blocked by many others, we automatically remove them from the community entirely. And so it&#8217;s sort of a self-policing community in that way; if people who aren&#8217;t productive or aren&#8217;t being helpful, they&#8217;re just removed naturally.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>05:51</strong></td>
<td valign="top">Now with regard to the specific feedback that you get, yes, some people are more helpful than others. Some people will just say, &#8220;Yeah, good job.&#8221; Other people will say, &#8220;You know, that was a good job but actually we pronounce this word a little bit different. You need to roll your R a little bit more this way.&#8221; They&#8217;ll go to a sort of greater level of depth, if you will, to instruct you. And what we find is that the people who give that greater level of depth tend to attract a lot of language partners to help them, because you&#8217;re rewarded by your students, so to speak, who can rate you as being particularly helpful.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>OK, so that was my next question. How do you sort of rise up or go down in the ranks of tutoring? So your actual feedback you give to your students will be rated or they&#8217;ll just rate you as a teacher?</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>06:44</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt: </span></strong>That&#8217;s right. Your students will rate the helpfulness or not of the review that you give to them. And so on LiveMocha, we keep track of both the quantity of the help you give others and the quality based on student ratings.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>And then that shows up in your points? Is that translated to&#8230;?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt: </span></strong>It shows up in your points. It shows up on your profile. It&#8217;s visible to the rest of the community. So if you&#8217;re choosing somebody on LiveMocha to be your language partner and ask them to review your speaking and writing exercises, you&#8217;re gonna choose somebody who has done a lot of work for others and who&#8217;s particularly helpful. You&#8217;ll invite them to help you. But you&#8217;ll also be very keen to help them because you want them to reciprocate.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>07:32</strong></td>
<td valign="top">So what happens is, kind of, the creme rises to the top. People who are really engaged in language learning and want to do a good job, they attract the best partners, and those people help each other. What we&#8217;re finding over the course of time is that the community, because of the dynamics that are sort of naturally baked into the structure, the interactions on the site, the community just keeps getting better. Better people, better instructions, more recommendations with a higher quality of experience overall.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Right. Yeah, the bigger the pool, the higher the quality gets, that&#8217;s for sure. Well what I did in the last few days I started studying Arabic on LiveMocha, which I have absolutely no experience with. I wanted to see what it felt like as a new learner. I briefly had used it for Japanese a few years ago, but I&#8217;ve already studied Japanese for many years, so it wasn&#8217;t an authentic experience for me as a newbie. And yeah, I did enjoy it. The only thing I encountered which may be my lack of understanding about how it works yet, it didn&#8217;t seem like there was any place on the site that would teach me how to read Arabic from the very, very beginning. You know, what a specific Arabic letter is; how it&#8217;s pronounced. I think it sort of assumed that you already knew how to at least read the letters. Is that something I&#8217;m misunderstanding or is that case?</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>08:55</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span> </strong>No, in fact you&#8217;ve heard exactly right. That&#8217;s a gap on LiveMocha that we&#8217;re actually quite eager to fill. And we&#8217;re working very hard right now to fill that. I think that those types of instruction are best provided by the community. You know, how to say it in traditional Arabic as opposed to, you know, broader regional Arabic. There is slightly different pronunciation, slightly different characters. And so you start to do very quickly take on a responsibility for content development that far exceeds our ability to deliver on it.</p>
<p>So, what we&#8217;re trying to build, and it&#8217; taking some time admittedly, but what we&#8217;re trying to build is an infrastructure on LiveMocha that acts as a repository and self-rating if you will, a repository for community-generated grammatical tips, grammatical feedback, specific pronunciation guides, even cultural and travel tips. There is a framework of community-generated content that we can wrap around the lessons that will make the lessons more effective, and will make them more relevant.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>10:10</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>I did notice that on the right side of the screen. It had a little section you could thumb up or thumb down a tip for any of the&#8230;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Yeah. That&#8217;s a poor man&#8217;s manifestation of the features that I&#8217;m talking about now.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Well it&#8217;s a start. It was helpful. I mean, you could see if somebody would spend enough time to write something meaningful, it would get thumbed up and that will be the first thing that showed up. And when you click to view all the tips, you know, you&#8217;d see some there that were not very constructive. And then they didn&#8217;t show up as often. So&#8230;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Correct. We can do a much better job with that and we will and are doing a much better job with that. But it does take some time when a site like ours is growing as fast as we are. And sometimes just keeping the lights on is a challenge so to speak. So we&#8217;ll get there but it is taking time.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>11:00</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Right. I know how that goes. So down the road what are some future things that LiveMocha users can look forward to? Features? Functions?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Yeah. I have a little bit of insight that I can share there. Some of it are super top secret. But one thing that I would be happy to share is the type of content that we make available on LiveMocha is going to be changing. The best manifestation of this change is represented by our partnership with Pearson.</p>
<p>We collaborated with Pearson to create a new course on LiveMocha that&#8217;s a premium, paid-only course for people who are learning English. It&#8217;s called &#8220;LiveMocha Active English&#8221;. And the focus of the course is entirely around conversational English: real conversation, real day-to-day dialog, showing English native speakers conversing with one another with subtitles available for language learners in dozens of languages; presenting English grammar to a student in their native language; in dozens of native languages; presenting vocabulary in a similar fashion. And then with that familiar LiveMocha reciprocal learning that&#8217;s integrated into an even richer course.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>12:30</strong></td>
<td valign="top">It would deliver a lot of things that LiveMocha&#8217;s current courses do not, including that video content and more explicit grammar instruction. We&#8217;re taking that model and now also expanding it in collaboration with Harper Collins to create similar courses for Spanish, French, German and Italian. And we may be looking forward to similar such courses in the future for a longer list of languages beyond.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re finding again and again is that what draws people to LiveMocha and what they&#8217;re enthusiastic about language learning for, is to have those conversations with native speakers with confidence. They want be able to go to the plaza in Madrid and ask for the best place in the town to have <em>cafe con leche</em> and to be able to understand what they&#8217;re saying and to say &#8220;Thank you&#8221; and to greet new people, introduce themselves. It&#8217;s not rocket science the types of things that people are aspiring to do. But the traditional tools just don&#8217;t really get from there.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>13:36</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Yup. I completely agree. That&#8217;s what my entire site is about. It&#8217;s why the traditional method doesn&#8217;t work and what does work. Now, you mentioned about adding more explicit grammar explanations in people&#8217;s native languages. In my experience and research that actually partly contributes to the inefficiency of traditional methods; focusing too much on information <em>about</em> the language and then not getting enough input <em>in</em> the language.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not to say that the occasional glance at a declension table can&#8217;t be somewhat useful. But especially for beginners, I find that the reason they never get excited about the language and the reason they never get enough practice listening and therefore cannot speak the language is because they spend too much time, whether it&#8217;s in a book or on a website, not listening enough to the actual native language and spending too much time thinking. How do you think LiveMocha can overcome that handicap?</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>14:48</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Well I think the one thing that&#8217;s often lacking from the same traditional methods is, just as you&#8217;ve mentioned, the ability or the opportunity to put the language into practice and to actually have those conversations. The best way to learn how to have a conversation is to try having a conversation. The sequence of our lessons, the sequence of our exercises for these new courses, while they will indeed teach you more about the language you&#8217;re learning in your native language, they culminate in asking you to put the language into practice in real interaction with native speakers. So the introduction of let&#8217;s say grammar and vocabulary is a means to an end, not the end itself.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>My basic contention is that if you learn a language what I consider the &#8220;correct&#8221; way, and there are many minor variations that differ from person to person, but basically if you&#8217;re learning the language through input, through topics you&#8217;re interested in, through just lots and lots and lots of listening and reading input, you&#8217;ll eventually get it. You don&#8217;t need to be too academic about it, and I think, as I said earlier, I think being overly conscious, consciously looking at how things work, I think is what slows people down. And I think it&#8217;s what makes people believe Chinese or Japanese are difficult languages. They <em>are</em> difficult if you go about them academically because they&#8217;re so different from English. But in their essence all languages have evolved the same way. They all use the same part of our brains. They all, you know, rely on the same basic structures deep down.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>16:37</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong> That&#8217;s really interesting. To me it touches on one of my, sort of, dissertation topics. They are somewhat connected. Traditionally, just because of technology limitations, you were really constrained in being able to teach a lot of people a new language just because it was a one-too-many type of thing. You had a teacher, and they were the one who had the knowledge, and they were the gating factor for disseminating that knowledge.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Yeah. It was broadcast only. Now we have &#8220;unicast&#8221; education.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>You got it. You got it.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Which is cool. Yah, there is no excuse now. I mean, with so many wonderful products available online, many of which have a &#8220;freemium&#8221; model like LiveMocha, you know, you can try it out. You can do&#8230;It&#8217;s up to 202, I guess, which is free?</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>17:26</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>That&#8217;s right.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>So there&#8217;s no excuse. You can get on there. You can try it out. Podcasts, like this one. I mean a lot of my listeners and readers are actually EFL students. So they&#8217;re using what we&#8217;re talking about right now to learn English, or to improve their English. And then what I do is I provide a transcript of each podcast so they can actually listen and then read, and listen and read each episode. So anyway, there&#8217;s a plethora of opportunities now; there&#8217;s no excuse.</p>
<p>Now, you mentioned you have 30-plus languages on the site?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>That&#8217;s right, over 30 languages. Occasionally we add new ones or take some other&#8217;s off to further improve or adjust the content. But right now we have 35 languages.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>What are the top 10 most popular on the site?</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>18:16</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Top 10, let&#8217;s see&#8230; I can give it to you in a rough order.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>That&#8217;s fine.</p>
<p><strong>Clint Schmidt: </strong>Number one most popular is clearly English, followed by an almost tie for Spanish and French, followed by an almost tie for German and Italian, followed then by an almost tie for Japanese and Mandarin.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Interesting.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>And then right after that it quickly disperses into a very long tail of languages, you know, all the way from Swedish to Czech to Hindi to Urdu to Croatian and so on.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Right. That&#8217;s interesting. If you looked at the list of the most commonly spoken languages in the world by native speakers versus the most commonly <em>studied</em> foreign languages, it&#8217;s amazing that difference there.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>19:05</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Well the fastest riser on LiveMocha easily is Arabic. I expect that Arabic will be among the top 5 languages that people want to learn by this time next year.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Yeah. That&#8217;s one I would point out. In the recent past it was not even in many university programs. And now it&#8217;s something a lot of people are going after. But if you pool all the Arabic dialects together, it&#8217;s I think number 3 or number 4.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Yeah. That&#8217;s exactly right. It&#8217;s all about English, Mandarin, Spanish and Arabic. Everything else is curiosity. In fact that long tail of languages that are available in LiveMocha are there largely because our community has taken upon themselves to translate our sequence of words and phrases that comprise our lessons into their native language.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Ahhh, OK.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>20:03</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>So the reason why we have Croatian 102 is because we have enough Croatian native speakers on LiveMocha who would like to see us offer that to those who want to learn Croatian.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Very cool. I mean that&#8217;s the way you&#8217;re gonna do it. There is no way you&#8217;ll every get all the languages unless there is some kind of open source, crowd source, you know, Wikipedia-esque <strong> </strong>way of doing it.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Yeah. Do you want hear the really cool thing? The really cool thing is that because our lessons are a sequence of words and phrases, and that sequence is fixed, we can show you translations in any one of those language pairs. So if you&#8217;re a Spanish speaker who wants to learn Russian, we can show you the pairing there. If you&#8217;re a Russian speaker who wants to learn Hindi, we can show that pairing; a Hindi speaker who wanted to learn Swedish; a Swedish speaker who wanted to learn Croatian. So you start to get into that long tail and you exponentially increase the number of relevant students and teachers that you can attract in the community.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>21:03</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Right. Or, in my experience, because I studied Japanese first, when I start studying Mandarin, a lot of times it&#8217;s actually preferential for me to use a Mandarin book or material meant for a Japanese person, because, you know, 80% of the vocabulary came from Chinese. Same for Korean if you&#8217;re going to learn Korean.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>So that actually is helpful in a lot of ways. I can that, sort of, the derivations, &#8220;Oh, OK. That character came from that character. OK, I got it.&#8221; So it&#8217;s actually&#8230;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt: </span></strong>I&#8217;m doing the exact same thing myself in learning Italian. I&#8217;m dangerous in Spanish and it&#8217;s much easier for me to, sort of, absorb Italian with Spanish as my, sort of, orientation point.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>21:47</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Yes. Well, a thank you to you for your time and for making a good product. I look forward to the, uh&#8230;what was the new thing coming down the pipe? You said it&#8217;s, uh&#8230;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Yes. Our Active Courses. LiveMocha Active German, Active Spanish, Active French, Active Italian&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>And active Chinese. I&#8217;m waiting&#8230;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>That one will be on the top of the list.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>I&#8217;ll be first in line.</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>22:09</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>Thanks, John.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Hopefully by the time it comes out I&#8217;ll be a tutor instead of just a student. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>We&#8217;re ready for you.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>All right. Actually that&#8217;s one more question. Is there any limitations on who can tutor? Do I have to be a native speaker or can I just be proficient in the language?</td>
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<td valign="top"><strong>22:25</strong></td>
<td valign="top"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>No. It&#8217;s all self-selected, provided that you indicate on your profile that you are indeed a fluent or a native speaker of the language. We&#8217;ll let you try your hand at correcting others. But as I mentioned, if you&#8217;re not proving to be too helpful, the community will quickly let us know and you may not be on LiveMocha much longer, or identified as someone who is very helpful. But you&#8217;re free to try it.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>Got it. All right. Clint, well, thank you so much for your time.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Clint Schmidt:</span></strong><strong> </strong>You bet. Thank you, John.</p>
<p><strong>John Fotheringham: </strong>For a transcript of this show and more tips, tools and tech for learning any language effectively, go to languagemastery.com.</td>
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		<title>Review of LiveMocha: The World&#8217;s Largest Language Learning Community</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With over 5 million registered users spread across 200 countries, LiveMocha is the world&#8217;s largest language learning community. And with sufficient venture capital and corporate partners behind them, the Seattle-based start-up firm has the resources to keep expanding their service offering long into the foreseeable future. The site has been well received by most, and [...]]]></description>
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<p>With over 5 million registered users spread across 200 countries, LiveMocha is the world&#8217;s largest language learning community. And with sufficient venture capital and corporate partners behind them, the Seattle-based start-up firm has the resources to keep expanding their service offering long into the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>The site has been well received by most, and comes strongly recommended by many language bloggers, school teachers, and individual learners.</p>
<p>Steven J. Sacco, a Language Professor at San Diego State University, has this to say about LiveMocha:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Livemocha is the best online language program I have seen and used—vastly superior to Rosetta Stone in terms of cost and the variety of language functions it offers.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>So how does <em>this</em> blogger feel about LiveMocha? Here&#8217;s a quick look at the good and bad as I see it.</p>
<h2>The <strong>Good</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>LiveMocha utilizes the best aspects of social networks: </strong>With so many registered users, LiveMocha provides a massive pool of potential tutors and language partners. The best part of this quid pro quo, reciprocity-based system are the corrections provided by native speakers. It&#8217;s win-win: they get some &#8220;Mocha Points&#8221; (exhangeable for otherwise pay-only features on the site) and you get free corrections. Not a bad deal. And you can of course correct the writing and speaking samples of people learning <em>your</em> native tongue. There will be frequent pop-ups asking you to do just that&#8230;</li>
<li><strong>Numerous languages to choose from: </strong>LiveMocha currently offers courses in 35 languages making the site quite the polyglot wonderland. The following languages are offered, though not all of them are equally fleshed out: Arabic, Brazilian, Bulgarian, Catalan, Czech, Dutch, Esperanto, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Icelandic, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin, Persian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Spanish (Castellano), Swedish, Turkish, Ukrainian, Urdu. Phew, that&#8217;s a lot of &#8220;languaging&#8221;&#8230;</li>
<li><strong>Lots of free content:</strong> It is always a good idea to test drive new materials before opening your wallet or purse. LiveMocha offers 3 units for free, with 5 or so lesson per unit, each including a variety of activities. Which leads to the next good point&#8230;</li>
<li><strong>A wide range of listening, speaking, reading and writing activities</strong>: In each lesson, you will receive multiple exposures to target vocabulary and structures, with a good mix of listening and reading input.<strong> </strong>I especially like the &#8220;drag &amp; drop&#8221; writing activity as it tests your understanding of basic structures and word order without requiring overt output before learners are ready for free writing exercises.</li>
<li><strong>Language Specific Pop-up Keyboards: </strong>Although most browsers allow you to insert special characters, using LiveMocha&#8217;s pop-up keyboards (which are specific to whatever language you are studying at the time) saves you a lot of time over looking for the right accent mark, upsidedown exclamation point, or funky squiggle within the sea of shapes in browser symbol directories.</li>
<li><strong>Correction by native speakers who are <em>not</em> necessarily trained teachers: </strong>Many people would consider this a <em>dis</em>advantage, but in my experience, untrained teachers are often better at identifying what doesn&#8217;t sound right and providing simple examples of more natural language. Teachers tend to miss the forest for the trees, and provide prescriptive advice on what one <em>should</em> say, not what real native speakers actually <em>do</em> say. Moreover, most teachers try to &#8220;teach&#8221; you the language, and as I reiterate time and time again, languages <em>cannot</em> be taught.</li>
<li><strong>Informal language is presented </strong><em><strong>first</strong></em><strong>:</strong> Opinions differ on this issue, but I personally recommend (and much prefer) learning informal language before focusing on more formal equivalents. Why? Because in nearly all cultures, we rarely use formal language. When you start out in a language, it is inefficient to spend your precious time learning infrequent, specialized vocabulary and phrases. &#8220;Pardon me, but could I trouble you for dab of Gray Poupon?&#8221; can come later&#8230; Also, informal language tends to be shorter and therefore easier to learn, and often does a better job of demonstrating the basic structures of the language, where as formal structures are often archaic, semantically opaque constructions. Besides, travelers and new foreign residents will almost always be forgiven for being a tad bit too informal.</li>
</ul>
<h2><strong>The Bad</strong></h2>
<p>The good news is that all of the following problems can be overcome or side-stepped based on how you use LiveMocha. And in my opinion, the pros of the site still far outweigh these cons&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Requires speaking and writing output too soon: </strong>When to begin producing output is a highly contested issue, and as of late, there have been some heated arguments on the topic between well-known language bloggers (many of you probably know to whom I refer). In my own experience as a language learner and teacher, I stand firmly in the &#8220;later but not <em>too</em> late&#8221; camp when it comes to output. Speaking and writing too soon is the single greatest cause of &#8220;fossilization&#8221; (see <a href="http://l2mastery.com/linguistionary" target="_blank">The Linguistionary</a> for more on fossilized errors) and often leads learners to develop a fear of speaking the foreign language.</li>
<li><strong>Too much overt focus on grammar:</strong> Grammar study is an equally controversial topic among language teachers, linguists, and polyglots (see <a href="http://www.streetsmartlanguagelearning.com/2010/05/role-of-grammar-live-debate-with-steve_11.html" target="_blank">this debate</a> between LingQ&#8217;s Steve Kaufmann and Vincent of &#8220;Street-Smart Language Learning&#8221; for more on the topic). In my experience, a little grammar review from time to time <em>can</em> be useful, but should only take up a small percentage of your time with the language. Lots of input (and eventually,  lots of output) is the key to true fluency, not memorizing complex information <em>about</em> the language that you have virtually no chance of utilizing in real time.</li>
<li><strong>Reliance on (and a prevalence of) translation:</strong> Most language learners rely on—and expect their language products to provide—translations of everything they hear or read. While translation does make the learner feel more comfortable (and a little bit here and there can be helpful), knowing the equivalent of each word or phrase in your native language is certainly not necessary to learn a language. Remember: you learned your native language without translating to or from <em>any</em> language. The key is to create such highly contextualized situations that you don&#8217;t need to translate. LiveMocha does a fairly good job of this with their use of annotated pictures, but they could do more to contextualize lessons (especially those for absolute beginners) by adding sound effects and video clips.</li>
<li><strong>Some bad apples:</strong> With such a large community, you are bound to run into a few bad apples who abuse the system. The most common problem I encountered were users who just copied what I had written without adding any suggestions or corrections in an effort, I assume, to quickly earn &#8220;Mocha Points&#8221;. But as LiveMocha&#8217;s VP of Marketing and Product, Clint Schmidt, mentions during our interview (see below), the community will quickly vote down such users and they will be removed from the system if appropriate.</li>
</ul>
<p>So there you have it. Overall, I think LiveMocha is an excellent language learning site and recommend it as a supplementary material to your other learning tools.</p>
<p>For more information, listen to my interview with LiveMocha VP of Marketing &amp; Product, Clint Schmidt, and watch the following presentation by LiveMocha CEO, Shirish Nadkarni.</p>
<h2>Foreign Language Mastery Interview</h2>
<p><a href="http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/livemocha-interview"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1227 alignleft" title="Clint Schmidt - Cropped" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Clint-Schmidt-Cropped-297x300.png" alt="" width="82" height="83" /></a>Click the following link to listen to and/or read my Interview with Clint Schmidt, LiveMocha&#8217;s VP of Marketing &amp; Product:</p>
<p><a href="http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/livemocha-interview" target="_self">Foreign Language Mastery Podcast: Episode 4 &#8211; Interview with LiveMocha VP of Marketing &amp; Product, Clint Schmidt</a></p>
<h2>Presentation by <strong>LiveMocha CEO </strong><strong>Shirish Nadkarni</strong></h2>
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		<title>The Get-it-done Guy Features Foreign Language Mastery</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stever Robbins, The Get-it-done Guy, has just released an episode on learning foreign languages quickly, featuring tips provided by yours truly! He has done a great job of distilling down the most important factors in learning a foreign language quickly and effectively, adding lots of humor and wit in typical Stever style.  His programs are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://getitdone.quickanddirtytips.com/how-to-learn-a-language-quickly.aspx"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1186" title="Get-it-done Guy" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Get-it-done-Guy.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="200" /></a>Stever Robbins, <em>The Get-it-done Guy</em>, has just released an episode on learning foreign languages quickly, featuring tips provided by yours truly!</p>
<p>He has done a great job of distilling down the most important factors in learning a foreign language quickly and effectively, adding lots of humor and wit in typical Stever style.  His programs are especially good for you English learners out there as they are interesting, short, and include transcripts of the shows.</p>
<p>I am honored to be featured in the show; I hope you enjoy it.</p>
<p>Listen to the episode on <a href="http://getitdone.quickanddirtytips.com/how-to-learn-a-language-quickly.aspx" target="_blank">The Get-it-done Guy site</a> or <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/136-gid-how-to-learn-language/id268557178?i=83915536" target="_blank">download it in iTunes</a>.</p>
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		<title>Review of Dictionary.com, Perhaps the World&#8217;s Best English Dictionary</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are countless online dictionaries available today, most of which are fairly decent. But all pale in comparison to Dictionary.com; the only dictionary I have ever truly loved. In fact, if there weren&#8217;t laws against it 38 states, I would probably have married the site already&#8230; The Good Audio samples: It&#8217;s always a good idea [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1163" title="Dictionary.com Logo" src="http://l2mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Dictionary.com-Logo.jpg" alt="" width="142" height="142" />There are countless online dictionaries available today, most of which are fairly decent.</p>
<p>But all pale in comparison to Dictionary.com; the only dictionary I have ever truly loved.</p>
<p>In fact, if there weren&#8217;t laws against it 38 states, I would probably have married the site already&#8230;</p>
<h2>The Good</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Audio samples:</strong> It&#8217;s always a good idea to listen to how a word sounds. Don&#8217;t fall into the trap of &#8220;thinking&#8221; you are pronouncing something correctly, only to find years later that you have been mispronouncing it all along! On Dictionary.com, just click the blue &#8220;speaker&#8221; icon to hear a word pronounced.</li>
<li><strong>Use of IPA:</strong> <em>The International Phonetic Alphabet</em> is a very powerful linguistic tool. It uses a finite (though quite lengthy) set of symbols to show exactly how any given word (in any given language) is pronounced. If you&#8217;ve gone to the trouble of learning a number of different orthographies, you will instantly appreciate the beauty of a universal system like this. The only problem is that, save for linguists, few people know the system in its entirety, if at all. But worry not; if you don&#8217;t know IPA, Dictionary.com also uses a fairly intuitive spelling-based pronunciation key as well with the stressed syllable shown in bold (e.g. &#8220;information&#8221; would be written &#8220;in-fer-<strong>mey</strong>-shuhn&#8221;).</li>
<li><strong>Word etymologies:</strong> Though certainly not necessary to learn a new word, it can be fun to find out where a word comes from. And the more interested you are in a term, the more likely it will stick in your long-term memory.</li>
<li><strong>Multiple entries per word:</strong> Dictionary.com collates definitions from a variety of sources, including science dictionaries, medical dictionaries, cultural dictionaries, etc. This is especially useful for terms that have very different meanings in different fields. As a good example of this, look up the word &#8220;morphology&#8221;.</li>
<li><strong>Free apps for Android and iPhones/iPod Touches:</strong> While the website is great, it does you little good when you are out and about without Internet access. The free apps allow you to look up words <em>offline </em>so there is never an excuse to procrastinate with, &#8221;Oh, I&#8217;ll just look it up when I get home&#8230;&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<h2>The Bad</h2>
<p>I had a really hard time trying to come up with things I don&#8217;t like about Dictionary.com&#8230; After racking my brain for a while, here are the only potential weaknesses that come to mind:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>It&#8217;s easy to get lost in the details:</strong> This is actually a problem with all good dictionaries. With so much good information, it is all too easy to continue looking up words used in the definition of the original term, and before you know it, you forget what you came there to look up in the first place! And this is especially easy online where you just have to mouseclick a word instead of thumbing through a book.</li>
<li><strong>No spaced repetition system:</strong> If Dictionary.com were to integrate a &#8220;spaced repetition&#8221; tool (see <a href="http://l2mastery.com/linguistionary" target="_blank">The Linguistionary</a>) as part of their premium service offering, it would literally become the best dictionary on the planet. Period.</li>
</ul>
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