Comments on: The Input vs. Output Debate: John’s 2¢ http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/the-input-vs-output-debate-john%e2%80%99s-2%c2%a2 Tips, Tools, and Tech for Learning Any Language Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:09:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: John Fotheringham http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/the-input-vs-output-debate-john%e2%80%99s-2%c2%a2#comment-371 John Fotheringham Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:39:31 +0000 http://l2mastery.com/?p=193#comment-371 Thank you very much, Koyami. I have experienced and observed the same phenomenon. It is sad to see many learners spend more time arguing about methods and materials than actually learning the language itself! As many successful language learners observe, the "perfect method" matters little if it's never implemented. Just start and adjust course as you go. You can just date a method to figure out if you click; you need't get married the first time you meet! Thank you very much, Koyami. I have experienced and observed the same phenomenon. It is sad to see many learners spend more time arguing about methods and materials than actually learning the language itself! As many successful language learners observe, the “perfect method” matters little if it’s never implemented. Just start and adjust course as you go. You can just date a method to figure out if you click; you need’t get married the first time you meet!

]]> By: Koyami Tulley http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/the-input-vs-output-debate-john%e2%80%99s-2%c2%a2#comment-370 Koyami Tulley Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:27:32 +0000 http://l2mastery.com/?p=193#comment-370 Excellent article! I recently started speaking more and I plan on writing more. It was shocking to see how much I could recognize but not replicate! I've been spending months on reading and listening nearly exclusively. Balance is definitely key. I'm just glad I spend all of my time getting input and increasing output instead of arguing about which one is "better", as if we could live without one or the other. A little counterproductive for a language learner, no? Excellent article! I recently started speaking more and I plan on writing more. It was shocking to see how much I could recognize but not replicate! I’ve been spending months on reading and listening nearly exclusively. Balance is definitely key. I’m just glad I spend all of my time getting input and increasing output instead of arguing about which one is “better”, as if we could live without one or the other. A little counterproductive for a language learner, no?

]]> By: John Fotheringham http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/the-input-vs-output-debate-john%e2%80%99s-2%c2%a2#comment-301 John Fotheringham Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:18:48 +0000 http://l2mastery.com/?p=193#comment-301 Thank you for your comment Youngbin. Being extreme is certainly a tried and trued way to increase traffic and ratings, which is why most political pundits (and some language bloggers) intentionally go too far. Thank you for your comment Youngbin. Being extreme is certainly a tried and trued way to increase traffic and ratings, which is why most political pundits (and some language bloggers) intentionally go too far.

]]> By: Youngbin http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/the-input-vs-output-debate-john%e2%80%99s-2%c2%a2#comment-207 Youngbin Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:29:50 +0000 http://l2mastery.com/?p=193#comment-207 Couldn't agree more! :) I have been thinking this input/output dispute is quite overheated. What I haven't been able to understand was why these language learning "experts" are so biased into one side. The fact that we need to practice speaking in order to speak better, practice listening to listen better, and so on. Isn't it commone sense? (Of course, each side impacts to other sides for sure.) Well, like you said, they are just being extremists after all to get more popularity. Doing only one side either input or output rather than both sides always seems easier for most of people who can easily end up having a false hope. Couldn’t agree more! :) I have been thinking this input/output dispute is quite overheated. What I haven’t been able to understand was why these language learning “experts” are so biased into one side. The fact that we need to practice speaking in order to speak better, practice listening to listen better, and so on. Isn’t it commone sense? (Of course, each side impacts to other sides for sure.)

Well, like you said, they are just being extremists after all to get more popularity. Doing only one side either input or output rather than both sides always seems easier for most of people who can easily end up having a false hope.

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