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		<title>Comment on Master Japanese: Self-Guided Immersion for the Passionate Language Learner by Master Japanese, l'e-book per studiare giapponese &#124; Hanami Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Japanese, l'e-book per studiare giapponese &#124; Hanami Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Master Japanese è un libro apposta per chi vuole imparare il giapponese da autodidatta senza avere bisogno di corsi o di libri di grammatica. Se hai provato diverse volte a imparare giapponese ma senza vedere nessun risultato questo libro fa per te, soprattutto se pensi che i metodi tradizionali siano molto noiosi e ripetitivi, oppure se ti manca la motivazione per iniziare a studiare seriamente. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Master Japanese è un libro apposta per chi vuole imparare il giapponese da autodidatta senza avere bisogno di corsi o di libri di grammatica. Se hai provato diverse volte a imparare giapponese ma senza vedere nessun risultato questo libro fa per te, soprattutto se pensi che i metodi tradizionali siano molto noiosi e ripetitivi, oppure se ti manca la motivazione per iniziare a studiare seriamente. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Foreign Language Mastery Featured in the Get-it-Done Guy Podcast by John Fotheringham</title>
		<link>http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/foreign-language-master-featured-in-the-get-it-done-guy-podcast#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick question for you: have you learned a foreign language to fluency yourself? I have encountered a lot of EFL teachers who make claims about how to best learn a language but have never done so themselves.

Your comment that &quot;without adequate knowledge of English grammar rules, learners often cannot create their own grammatically correct sentences, and often cannot understand what they read or listen to in English&quot; completely ignores how the brain works. The human brain is hard wired to figure out the grammatical patterns in the language (or languages) it encounters if given enough input. You did not learn your native language of English through conscious study of English grammar, and nor is such study necessary for learning a foreign language. That said, I do think that adult learners can get some benefit from looking at the basic structures of their target language, but grammar rules are of little use until one has received enough exposure to the language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick question for you: have you learned a foreign language to fluency yourself? I have encountered a lot of EFL teachers who make claims about how to best learn a language but have never done so themselves.</p>
<p>Your comment that &#8220;without adequate knowledge of English grammar rules, learners often cannot create their own grammatically correct sentences, and often cannot understand what they read or listen to in English&#8221; completely ignores how the brain works. The human brain is hard wired to figure out the grammatical patterns in the language (or languages) it encounters if given enough input. You did not learn your native language of English through conscious study of English grammar, and nor is such study necessary for learning a foreign language. That said, I do think that adult learners can get some benefit from looking at the basic structures of their target language, but grammar rules are of little use until one has received enough exposure to the language.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Foreign Language Mastery Featured in the Get-it-Done Guy Podcast by Michael</title>
		<link>http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/foreign-language-master-featured-in-the-get-it-done-guy-podcast#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe what especially matters in effective teaching and learning 
English grammar is how clearly and easily understandable all grammar 
rules are explained and whether adequate supportive exercises with real 
life content are practised to master that material. It would take 
foreign learners much less time to learn grammar rules that are 
explained to learners than to figure out grammar rules on their own 
based on even numerous examples because grammar rules may have 
exceptions and other peculiarities. 



Grammar books with explanations and exercises have been published by 
knowledgeable language specialists to make learning grammar easier so 
that learners don&#039;t have to discover grammar rules anew the hard long 
way.

I&#039;ve received some messages from people advocating unconventional 
English learning methods and promoting English learning products of that
 kind. I&#039;ve explored some of their websites that contain a number of 
learners&#039; comments. Supporters of unconventional learning methods and 
products claim that learning grammar is unnecessary and inhibits fluent 
speaking.



A growing number of learners are misled and lose time experiencing delay
 in language learning progress because of superficial claims of 
promoters of unconventional English learning methods and products.

I disagree with those speculative claims as knowing grammar rules 
logically reduces making mistakes by learners. Without adequate knowledge of English grammar rules learners often cannot create their own grammatically correct sentences, and often cannot understand what they read or listen to in English exactly.


Conventional communicative 
English teaching and learning supported with adequate regular long-term 
practice in listening comprehension and speaking English yield effective
 results. Lack of such practice in English by learners produces speculations that 
conventional English learning and teaching methods don&#039;t work. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe what especially matters in effective teaching and learning<br />
English grammar is how clearly and easily understandable all grammar<br />
rules are explained and whether adequate supportive exercises with real<br />
life content are practised to master that material. It would take<br />
foreign learners much less time to learn grammar rules that are<br />
explained to learners than to figure out grammar rules on their own<br />
based on even numerous examples because grammar rules may have<br />
exceptions and other peculiarities. </p>
<p>Grammar books with explanations and exercises have been published by<br />
knowledgeable language specialists to make learning grammar easier so<br />
that learners don&#8217;t have to discover grammar rules anew the hard long<br />
way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve received some messages from people advocating unconventional<br />
English learning methods and promoting English learning products of that<br />
 kind. I&#8217;ve explored some of their websites that contain a number of<br />
learners&#8217; comments. Supporters of unconventional learning methods and<br />
products claim that learning grammar is unnecessary and inhibits fluent<br />
speaking.</p>
<p>A growing number of learners are misled and lose time experiencing delay<br />
 in language learning progress because of superficial claims of<br />
promoters of unconventional English learning methods and products.</p>
<p>I disagree with those speculative claims as knowing grammar rules<br />
logically reduces making mistakes by learners. Without adequate knowledge of English grammar rules learners often cannot create their own grammatically correct sentences, and often cannot understand what they read or listen to in English exactly.</p>
<p>Conventional communicative<br />
English teaching and learning supported with adequate regular long-term<br />
practice in listening comprehension and speaking English yield effective<br />
 results. Lack of such practice in English by learners produces speculations that<br />
conventional English learning and teaching methods don&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Secret to Learning a Language in 10 Days by John Fotheringham</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fotheringham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some overlap between Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone, but they are very different products (and the latter is far more expensive). You can see my review of Rosetta Stone here: http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/review-of-rosetta-stone-language-learning-products</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some overlap between Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone, but they are very different products (and the latter is far more expensive). You can see my review of Rosetta Stone here: http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/review-of-rosetta-stone-language-learning-products</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Secret to Learning a Language in 10 Days by Jake</title>
		<link>http://l2mastery.com/featured-articles/the-secret-to-learning-a-language-in-10-days#comment-1809</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could this really be better than Rosetta Stone ? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this really be better than Rosetta Stone ? </p>
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